Oppositional conversational style
The Psychology of Oppositional Conversational Style (OCS)
Back by popular demand is the assay I wrote about the “oppositional conversational style” (OCS). This post really seems to strike a chord with people.
Which surprised me at first, because when I identified OCS, I thought I was the only person who had ever noticed it.
Turns out that many people have noticed it! From both sides of the OCS-dominated conversation.
A person with oppositional conversational style is a person who, in conversation, disagrees with and corrects whatever you say. He or she may do this in a friendly way, or a belligerent way, but this person frames remarks in opposition to whatever you venture.
I noticed this for the first time in a conversation with a guy a few months ago. We were talking about social media, and before long, I realized that whatever I’d say, he’d disagree with me. If I said, “X is important,” he’d say, “No, actually, Y is important. ” For two hours. And I could tell that if I’d said, “Y is important,” he would’ve argued for X.
I saw this style again, in a chat with friend’s wife who, no matter what casual remark I made, would disagree. “That sounds fun,” I observed. “No, not at all,” she answered. “That must have been really difficult,” I said. “No, for someone like me, it’s no problem,” she answered. Etc.
Since those conversations, I’ve noticed this phenomenon several times.
Here are my questions about oppositional conversational style:
Is OCS a strategy that particular people use consistently? Or is there something about me, or about that particular conversation, that induced these people to use it?
Along those lines, is OCS a way to try to assert dominance, by correction? That’s how it feels, and also…
Do people who use OCS recognize this style of engagement in themselves; do they see a pattern in their behavior that’s different from that of most other people?
Do they have any idea how tiresome it can be?
In the case of the first example, my interlocutor used OCS in a very warm, engaging way. Perhaps, for him, it’s a tactic to drive the conversation forward and to keep it interesting. This kind of debate did indeed throw up a lot of interesting insights and information. But, I must admit, it was wearing.
In the second example, the contradictory responses felt like a challenge.
I described oppositional conversational style to my husband and asked if he knew what I was talking about. He did, and he warned me, “Watch out! Don’t start thinking about this, and then start to do it yourself.”
I had to laugh, because he knows me very well. I have a strong tendency towards belligerence—for instance, it’s one reason I basically quit drinking — and I could easily fall into OCS. (I just hope I don’t exhibit OCS already, which is quite possible.)
But I do recognize that to be on the receiving end of the oppositional conversational style—to have someone keep telling you that you’re wrong, over and over—is not pleasant.
It’s wearing at best, and often highly annoying. Even in the case of my first example, when the OCS had a fun, friendly spirit, it took a lot of self-command for me to stay calm and un-defensive. Many points could have been made in a less “Let me set you straight” way.
And in the second example, I felt patronized. Here I was, trying to make pleasant conversation, and she kept contradicting me. It was all I could do not to roll my eyes and retort, “Fine, whatever, actually I don’t care if you had fun or not.”
Now, I’m not arguing that everyone should agree all the time. Nope. I love a debate (and I’m trained as a lawyer, which definitely has made me more comfortable, perhaps too comfortable, with confrontation). But it’s not much fun when every single statement in a casual conversation is met with,“Nope, you’re wrong; I’m right.” Skillful conversationalists can explore disagreements and make points in ways that feel constructive and positive, rather than combative or corrective.
What do you think? Do you recognize it in other people–or in yourself?
Oppositional Conversational Style | Dr.Ian O'Byrne
In an earlier post, I discussed how to debate with others in real life. As we engage in discussion or debate with others, we often come across the person that wants to argue just for the sake of arguing.
Gretchen Rubin identifies this as oppositional conversational style.
Oppositional conversational style is a person, who in a discussion or debate disagrees with and corrects everything that you say. They may do this in a friendly or perhaps a belligerent manner. This may be face-to-face, or in online settings.
What does this look like?
This person will provide facts, alternative facts, beliefs, & suppositions all to suspend or carry on the debate. There is no desire to engage in a real debate. There is also no desire to come to a common ground through dialogue.
The individual may not listen in the debate. They frequently interrupt, monopolize, and/or hijack the conversation to present their own agenda.
This may include attempts to force a dynamic in the discussion, or not moving on from a topic when both parties are not receptive. Alternatively, this may also include randomly and abruptly changing topics without transition or apparent reason.
There may be several reasons individuals engage in oppositional conversational style. It could be that emotions are causing them to act irrationally. They may be trying to cover up an incomplete understanding of the facts. They may simply not have the knowledge or intellectual fortitude to engage in discussion or debate.
What to do
In these instances, we often want to continue to debate and understand the individual…or make them understand our point of view. This is often a fruitless endeavor.
Keep in mind that it’s not always necessary to change someone’s mind. Do not get emotionally overwhelmed in the interaction.
Realize that some issues are objective and some are subjective. Objective issues deal with concrete, or observable facts. If the other individual does not want to discuss facts, you may be arguing in vain.
When you find yourself in a discussion or debate with someone that utilizes an oppositional conversational style, the best course of action may be to end the discussion before it starts.
If you see any of the patterns identified above, it may be best for you to end the debate before it continues.
I believe that it is much easier to be direct and honest with the individual. Ask them the following question:
Is there anything that I can say to change, or make you reconsider, your perspective?
If they indicate that there is nothing you can say or do to make them change their mind, it is time to remove yourself from the conversation.
Your relationship with the person should dictate your response. If it is a family member you may decide to ask them about their conversational style to better understand their logic. If it is a boss or co-worker, it might be better to accept their position and move on. If this is an acquaintance or someone that you don’t really know, you should change the subject, or walk away.
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A few days ago I posted about what I describe as " Oppositional Conversation Style " (OCS for short), and I was overwhelmed by the fervent response.
I thought I identified some obscure, rare pattern of human interaction, but it turns out that many people have already identified such interaction.
A person with an "oppositional conversational style" is a person who disagrees in a conversation and corrects everything you say . Maybe friendly, maybe belligerent, but their remarks are the opposite of what you are saying.
I was fascinated by reading people's comments. I learned a few things.
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First, people recognize this pattern easily. ACS appears to be a widespread phenomenon.
Secondly, it is very difficult for people to be on the receiving side of the OCS. Be repeatedly told “I'm right; you're wrong", annoying in any context.
Thirdly, at least some people who practice OCS recognize it on their own, and they believe there is value in such an exchange. They interact with others in a way that because they are interested in discussing or want to pinpoint the facts, or because they want to make it clear that there is another side of the argument (even if they don't particularly believe in that side of the argument, they want to study it).0005
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I think it's useful to watch for "oppositional conversational style." Sometimes just being able to identify what's eavesdropping on you somehow lessens the annoyance. Instead of responding to the exchange without hesitation, you realize, “Oh, I'm in the presence of an oppositional conversational style! How very interesting! nine0005
And for those who use an oppositional conversational style, it's helpful to recognize your pattern of behavior - and recognize its likely consequences for others. You may not care if you annoy people, or maybe you do. Whether or not you agree that people should be irritated, they seem to be irritated.
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